ago. the bumps that obama got from the second set has stabilize. unless you know you're right, unless this abc news poll in ohio, to me is stark news. >> you mean the ohio poll. >> that changes the equation. the last three weeks, look at owl of the swing states polls, everything in them, it's been the same race. >> nicolle wallace, that first ra debate. >> i agree that the polls in ohio is really the only one that matters. i don't buy that there's a path without ohio for romney. so, what they're pointing to this morning, what does suggest something that may be destabilizing the post-debate stability, the demos moines register editorial could have a ripple effect in that part of the country. if the polls show them even, that could change the me mentality of the voters in ohio. try to neutralize of false attacks about the auto bankruptcy. >> that's become the big issue in ohio. the auto bailout. the other argument from stephanie cutter, 20% of voters in ohio have voted. >> and in north carolina, maryland, georgia. stephanie cutter is right about this. lot of lines on the east coast. i a

are their people. >> that's right. one of the other arguments the obama campaign makes these national polls. gallup poll has shown consistently a seven-point lead for romney. simply missing these obama voters who will get out again. >> we have two polling races. we have rasmussen and gallup in one corner. according to the gallup and rasmussen we're headed for a landslide for romney. 11-point victory, he got seven, obama. they lost last time by huge amounts. i don't know what's going on out there. george, none of us does, i think, i think it's going to be extremely close. i think, like nicolle, it's going to be about ohio, the auto bailout. of all the policies and the arguments -- >> or miscounting latino voters. or people who don't respond to hard-line phone calls. or just the science of polling. >> or the number of times i have refused to pick up my phone when i can see it's research firm. but, nonetheless, i think a nightmare frankly, maybe we can all agree on this, is that there are some electoral college/popular vote difference. >> one scenario is that it just doesn't come down to one state, li

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